Llywydd, the first proposition that Simon Thomas made, I think, is an entirely reasonable statement of how a disagreement between two parties can be understood. If the position of his party is that they are welcoming the ground that has been gained but believe it doesn't go far enough and that there's more that could have been done, that seems to me entirely reasonable for them to take. That isn't what I think I've heard from other Plaid Cymru members, I have to say; they have described what we have achieved in very demeaning terms. The way Simon Thomas put it, that what we have achieved is something that he welcomes—I don't want to put words into his mouth—but that there is more that he thinks ought to have been done and therefore he can't accept it as it is, that seems to me to be an entirely proper way to put it and, indeed, that is the way that Michael Russell put it when he made his statement in the Scottish Parliament yesterday. And, in that sense, there is a disagreement between the way that the Government here has concluded and the way that Simon Thomas would have wished to see things. We do put weight on the inter-governmental agreement, because we think that the effort that went into securing it, the public way in which it has received commitment, means that we can put some trust on it.

Simon Thomas says it doesn't deal sufficiently with the rights of the Parliament here, and I see the point he made. It was, indeed, a point that was made by David Rees, but I provide the same answer: that it would have been an odd thing indeed for me, as a member of the Government, to have made commitments on behalf of the legislature in an agreement between Governments. What we now need to do is to do the work that David Rees pointed to, and to make sure that the parliamentary processes that go alongside the inter-governmental agreement are agreed here—not agreed between the Scottish Government and the UK Government and the Welsh Government, but agreed here, on the parliamentary side, where those responsibilities will lie.

Simon Thomas made three points at the end. As I say, I don't for a minute myself believe that this will take eight long years, as he put it, for powers to return here. Let me just say to the Assembly just what hard work it was to get an agreement that English Ministers would not use the powers while these things were in the freezer. Do you think they just signed up to that on the spur of the moment? I can tell you that they were very reluctant indeed to be in that position, and they will want to be out of that position, as we do, as fast as we can possibly agree it.

He asks about what does 'normally' mean. Well, 'not normally' is not used in this agreement for the first time, either in legislation or inter-governmental agreements. It means here what it means in all the other places where that phrase is used, and the way that this—[Interruption.] I think that he will struggle to find too many examples—I'm sure there will be some—where that way of working has been used to the disadvantage of this legislature, and we would expect the commitments that have been made here, echoing, as they do, that phrase from other ways in which legislation and agreements are drawn up, to operate just as effectively here as they have in other places.