Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:13 pm on 16 May 2018.
I've addressed the costs until I'm red in the face in this Chamber, and I don't want to go over the cost issue, quite frankly. We've explained quite clearly the fiscal framework and Scottish Labour seemed to support that. It's one tool; I'm not saying it's a panacea, but surely it is one tool in the box of wider issues that we can have control over here in Wales.
With regard to some of the other contributions, I'll quickly go through some of them. Mark Isherwood gave us quite a lot of information on poverty, but I didn't hear him taking any responsibility for anything that the Conservatives are doing on a UK level, and perhaps some humility would be nice on occasion. [Laughter.]