It is true to say that all four police and crime commissioners, both Labour and Plaid Cymru, are in favour of the devolution of policing, and that is something that I have supported for many, many years. Of course, this will form an important part of what the Thomas commission has to look at. I believe it's always been the case that it makes little sense for policing not to be devolved when every other emergency service is. [Interruption.] This comes as news to Plaid Cymru. They should read the news over the past few years, shouldn't they? They will then find out. But it is the case—[Interruption.]