Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:11 pm on 22 May 2018.
I just want to speak briefly, really, to say 'thank you' to Sarah Rochira for being a fantastic older people's commissioner over these past six years. I held the older people's brief for a number of years in the previous Assembly, and it was an absolute joy to be able to work with the commissioner, and indeed the rest of her team, and to get alongside her and see just how hard she worked to engage with older people across the country. She made a number of visits up to my constituency. We did some bus surgeries, so we both got on the buses and, indeed, visited care homes in my constituency too. I've been very grateful for the way in which she has engaged with voluntary groups in the area too.
So, I want to put on record my thanks for her efforts. We can see from yet another report just that great level of activity that is under way in Wales in terms of the way that she is reaching out and trying to be that champion of older people that she has been over the past six years. She's not shied away either from taking a nip at the heels of Government and local authorities and independent care providers and hospitals over the years. She's rolled her sleeves up and she's produced some excellent reports that have been, frankly, very hard-hitting at times and that have been very difficult reading, but each of those has had with it some very useful recommendations in terms of being able to take the dignity and respect agenda in particular forward, and I know that she can be proud of the legacy that she will leave behind when she vacates this post and passes it on to the next person.
Just two very brief comments if I may: you made reference earlier on, Minister, to the older people's rights agenda and the fact that we are all on the same side in terms of the outcomes that we want to achieve but that you don't feel that there's a need to actually legislate in order to achieve those outcomes. But you will know that, via an amendment that was tabled by the Welsh Conservatives, we do have reference to the UN principles for older persons on the face of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014, and I think that it's necessary, frankly, to have more of an umbrella piece of legislation on which to hang all of the things that you want to do as a Government so that older people can trace straight back to a piece of legislation their rights and, indeed, the responsibilities of others towards them. Children and young people have that; older people don't, and I think it sends a very negative message to older people with the Government's stubbornness to move forward with a piece of legislation on this.
One of the rights that I would like to see on the face of a piece of legislation—and you're only able to do this with legislation—is a clear right to respite. We've seen the older people's commissioner report on the importance of respite with her 'Rethinking Respite' report, particularly around dementia. The number of people who come into our surgeries as Assembly Members who are facing burnout because of the lack of access to respite has only grown in recent years—people who need to be resilient for the sake of their loved ones and who are doing a very hard and very difficult job that is not always properly recognised by the authorities with which they're engaged, particularly social service departments in some parts of the country. We know that that can destroy their relationships with the older people who they are caring for—some of whom, they may have been married tens of years, decades under their belt, and, as a result of that burn-out, the frustration that can often be caused, it just destroys the love in those relationships. So, we've got to work harder on respite, and I think that you ought to take on board one of the suggestions that our party put forward at the last Assembly elections, which was to have, in statute, a clear right to respite for older people and others caring for their loved ones, because it really is the only way we're going to secure the change in attitude that we need.
So, in closing, once again I'd like to thank Sarah Rochira for her work, and I look forward to being able to engage further with the Government on this important agenda in order that we can get the rights for older people realised here in Wales.