Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:18 pm on 5 June 2018.
In spite of the trenchant criticisms that have come from Siân Gwenllian, which I fully understand, today, I think it's important to recognise that there is widespread agreement around this Chamber about the direction of policy in which the Government is going. Although the style of the new Minister is perhaps somewhat different from the rumbustious style of her predecessor, I think she is being equally effective in a rather different way.
I think it's vitally important, if we are to marry the confidence that Siân Gwenllian was talking about amongst the naturally Welsh speaking population—if I can put it that way—with those who we have to bring with us on this journey to achieve the goals that we all set in the Cymraeg 2050 programme, as we extend the success of this programme beyond the redoubts of Welsh speaking in the west into areas that are predominantly English speaking, I think it's vital that the carrot rather than the stick approach should be emphasised, and so I very much welcome the direction of travel of the Government.
There isn't, of course, a great deal of substance in this particular statement, but I don't say that as a criticism; I think it's fair enough that the Minister should want to make a report on how she sees things going a few months after she has achieved office. I think it's very important that we should take a practical approach to the achievement of this objective. It's no good setting ourselves objectives that can't be reached, and it's no good setting up frictions, which are going to slow down the rate of progress that we all want to see. So, I don't blame Plaid Cymru at all for what they say, or even organisations like Cymdeithas yr Iaith for being frustrated at the pace of change. It's important that they should have their voice and they should keep up this criticism in order to make sure that they apply a stick to the Government, which is offering the carrot. So, it's important that we all have our voices, I think, listened to in a different way because we all want to achieve the same objective.
I do support the proposals to change to the commission from the commissioner, for reasons that the Minister herself has set out, and I do think it's important that the policing functions of the programme should be undertaken by those who are at an arm's length from Government. It's important that the Government should be the persuader, I think, and not the policeman of the system. That's the best way, I think, in which we will achieve that objective. We saw in the unfortunate confrontations, for example, in Llangennech last year, how problems of that kind can actually make it more difficult to achieve our objective, I think, in areas that are perhaps not quite so confident about the need to make progress in the directions that we all want to see. So, we want to try to calm passions and to achieve the maximum degree of consensus for the achievement of these goals.
There's one practical question I would like to ask the Minister. I very much approve of the incentivisation of teachers to teach through the medium of Welsh, to learn to teach through the medium of Welsh et cetera, but one thing we must ensure is that parents, in particular, don't think that this might be achieved at the expense of getting the best teachers for specific schools to teach their children. So, I wonder what the Minister can tell us about the way in which fears of that kind—unfounded as they may be—may be allayed.
Secondly, something that is not in the statement, but was in the Cymraeg 2050 programme. That set out ways in which targets could be achieved and, in particular, the aim of transforming Welsh language digital landscapes, with particular focus on landscape technology. Could the Minister provide us with an update on how the Welsh Government has taken proactive steps towards achieving this endeavour?
With that, I'll just say that I'm pleased with the way that the Government is developing this policy, and I do think that the practical approach, which her predecessor brought to this, which is now being extended by the current Minister, is the best way to achieve our common objective.