Well, I'm glad that Leanne Wood started by saying she supports the initiative Better Jobs Closer to Home, and I wasn't entirely sure from the rest of her contribution quite how she supported it. 

On the procurement strategy, I did not say it was a barrier; I said there were a number of things that we had to take into account when constructing a scheme that allowed the Welsh Government to use its procurement spend and its procurement levers to establish a market intervention in order to create employment for people who were experiencing serious employment barriers in areas of high unemployment. I completely agree with you that there are areas of high unemployment scattered around Wales, and that there are a large number of communities who have different barriers and different issues. What we are doing here is trialling four different pilot projects of different ways of intervening in the market, so that we can use them as genuine pilots to see whether they work, and to see whether they're scalable, or to see, for example, whether they're very specific place-based things, because there are some communities that would have a particular preponderance of skill and residual community feeling for a particular area, for example. One of these is the scheme in Merthyr that already exists, and we're hoping to get it to be a much larger enterprise using our leverage.

So, I didn't say that the rules were a barrier. I think the characterisation of what's going to happen as a result of where we are with the withdrawal Bill is not one I share at all. I really don't think a race to the bottom without any rules across the UK for how we would do state intervention in local industry, or how we would have procurement spending rules so that we didn't all start to compete each town with the other, each village with the other, would be a sustainable position. I'm sure the leader of Plaid Cymru doesn't really maintain that that's a situation that any of us could have. It's obviously in all of our interests to have a set of rules that allow us to support our local population and to get economic prosperity, whilst not indulging in a race to the bottom or a race to the top of the amount of money you have to offer every employer to come to your locality, and I'm sure she didn't mean to suggest that.

In terms of the transport system, of course we have looked very closely to see what the transport links for all of these hubs are, because a large number of the problems of, for example, the higher Valleys, are to do with the speed of transport links to employment hubs. But this isn't really about transport links; this is about getting the jobs in the place where the people already live, and especially for those with multiple barriers like people with caring responsibilities, who are mostly women, or people who have been economically inactive for some time. Any kind of transport cost or barrier can be a real issue. So, these are centred around trying to get local employment for local people. I'm very pleased with the pilots and I hope very much that I can come back and tell people a really good story this time next year when we've had a whole year to run, but if we can't tell that good story, at least we'll be able to transparently say what the issue was and how we might be able to rectify it using some of the levers at our disposal.