Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:11 pm on 6 June 2018.
Will the Member give way? Just for clarity, to make it absolutely clear, I'm very much in favour of nationalised public utilities, but the proposal in front of us today, in the context of a privatised market where we in the Assembly don't have the powers, is just to establish our own national company that could be part of the players within this field.