Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:13 pm on 6 June 2018.
Whilst I appreciate you're not an enthusiast for nationalisation, would you agree that Germany is hardly a hardcore socialist economy and there, what we have is a flowering of local energy companies that provide proper competition that is lacking in the UK? Would you and the Conservative Party agree that that is a model that we ought to be aspiring to here in Wales?