Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:11 pm on 12 June 2018.
Well, it's about not just empowering the people and providing the space, but how we judge new partnerships to be taken forward. If you look at the quadruple aim, the first leg of that is to improve population health and well-being. That will require people to be more active, as part of it. We've understood, for a very long time, that a more active population where we reduce smoking, where we deal with diet, and where we also deal with some of the challenges of alcohol as well—which we'll talk about later on today as well—will help to improve a range of those measures. We need different partners with different levers to help people make better choices. But also I think Members should take some comfort in the design principles for the new ways of working and the new models that we're going to test them against. The first of those is prevention and early intervention—that's a key design principle around how we will then judge the effectiveness of those measures we want to get behind in generally transforming health and social care, rather than just dealing with more of the same that hasn't been able to gain what we all want to see.