Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:26 pm on 13 June 2018.
Diolch. This being Carers Week, as has been exemplified, it's an important opportunity for us to have this debate, one that deeply affects the lives and experiences of so many people, so I thank you for bringing this debate forward. I myself brought forward a motion on young carers last summer. And just last week, I had the pleasure of welcoming some young carers from Swansea YMCA and Cardiff to the Assembly to meet with the children's Minister so he could hear their concerns directly. But as the motion makes clear, it's important that we focus on carers of all ages too. They play an invaluable role, and without the efforts of carers, our public services would be under significantly higher pressure than is currently the case. But I do feel that we can offer carers more support than is currently out there.
There are a number of Plaid Cymru amendments, which I would like to propose here today, and many of those amendments have actually come directly from those young carers, who, I'm pleased to say, are here today. Our amendment 2 is something Plaid Cymru have raised on previous occasions, and we will continue to raise it, for the simple fact of how anybody can claim to be serious about tackling the problems inherent to the welfare system if we show no appetite to take at least some control of that system ourselves. I simply do not accept any semantic argument that we must protect the solidarity of the welfare system across the UK, because it already has been fragmented. Scotland has its own administration rules and so does Northern Ireland. I'm tired of the arguments that only have the effect of anchoring us with an English policy that does nothing to help our citizens here in Wales.
Amendment 3, we believe, is also important because it notes the very real economic problems and uncertainty that exist for so many people. For a young adult carer with responsibilities at home, the uncertainty and lack of stability inherent to zero-hour contracts is a real barrier. Carers of any age need employment that may allow them to remain as a carer.
Our other amendments focus on young carers, as I've already talked about, because their needs have often been forgotten when it comes to policy. Last year, in a debate on this subject, I drew attention to the fact that there simply wasn't enough progress being made in terms of implementing proper and consistent guidance for authorities and schools on recognising and providing support for young carers. I think it's fair to say that guidance and training are still ad hoc, with some places doing far better than others, as with access to respite services and leisure time. I'd appreciate more regular updates from the advisory board now that it has been established, because young carers told me that the pace of change is not fast enough and, in the meantime, they are having to leave school, as Suzy Davies has said, without the qualifications that they need ongoing.
Furthermore, I would like to make the argument that there should have been more involvement from groups such as the YMCA in this process. They've had hands-on experience of being able to make the care assessments, for example, to be commissioned to do that work. Also, I am a bit curious as to why you're launching another investigation into ID when the YMCA have actually done that work. It seems to have gone into the ether.
One of the issues I've been told about by young carers is the practicalities of carrying out their role. We included transport in that, because they said that they didn't want just a card to be able to show to somebody, they wanted something tangible on that card, and transport was the key thing for them. I think discounts in, perhaps, local shops or local places would be something else. They just don't want a card that might stigmatise them further, so that was something from them.
In relation to the amendment on the appropriate training on the administration of medication, that again came from a young carer, because she told me that she was injecting morphine into her father and she hadn't had any training on that. She hadn't had anybody actually ask her whether she was okay with that, whether it was something that she felt comfortable with, but she just had to do it. So, that is what is important for me. You may think that a certain age is too young and I may agree with you, but these young carers have to do it because they don't have an opportunity to not do it. I give way.