Questions Without Notice from Party Spokespeople

Part of 1. Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Finance – in the Senedd at 1:45 pm on 20 June 2018.

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Photo of Nick Ramsay Nick Ramsay Conservative 1:45, 20 June 2018

Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. You spoke about the way that the mutual investment model differs from PFI; I think this has been an area of some confusion. There is a lack of clarity out there as to the nature of the differences with traditional PFI. If I can just give some examples: in a conventional PFI—a PF1 or PF2 deal—soft services are usually considered to include catering and cleaning provisions. What services do you envisage being, either included or excluded, if that's easier, from the mutual investment model within the twenty-first century schools programme? I say this in the light of the fact that there have been concerning stories of PFI hospitals faced with significant charges to deal with minor maintenance issues, such as one PFI hospital that was billed £333 to have a new lightbulb installed—an extreme example, but nonetheless, these are some of the concerns that have surrounded PFI, and which currently concern the MIM as well.