Looking at the issues, traffic congestion, of course, is a major issue. Schools have become bigger and less local, and more children are in families where both parents work most days, so we now have large numbers of parents driving their kids to school, and the school run is a major component of the traffic problem at rush hours, as can be evidenced by the noticeably less traffic at these times during school holidays. So, one thing we need to think about—all of these things are interrelated. It's a whole tapestry of things, and it's difficult, sometimes, to think about how a Government would deal with these issues, but one thing is we need to encourage more kids to walk to school, through supporting initiatives such as the walking school bus and other similar walking patrols.

We also need better public transport. In Cardiff, and no doubt in other major towns in Wales, we have business parks and such like built in places on the edges of cities, without any real public transport links. This is a failure of the planning system. We need more arterial bus routes going around the edge of major towns. Certainly, we need them in Cardiff; probably in Newport and Swansea they would be an advantage as well. They have a lot of arterial bus routes in London; we don't really do them in Cardiff.

Active travel is another key point. We need infrastructure such as cycle and footpaths, although, of course, there's always the physical difficulty of incorporating all of these elements in limited urban spaces. But there are opportunities. There are some disused railway lines, which could be utilised. There's one in the west of Cardiff, which runs between Fairwater and Creigiau, which is still there from being cut in the Beeching era, I imagine. The line is still there; it wouldn't take that much of an effort to actually clear the line and use it for some purpose. We do have the campaign to reopen the Rhondda tunnel, which I asked a question about earlier today, so I'm hopeful that that scheme will progress.

Another planning issue is the large number of fast food outlets, which sometimes congregate closely together in certain parts of certain towns. This, because of the large number of extractor fans in operation, will tend to have a noticeably poor effect on the air quality, and this, again, leads to issues of planning, because, in my experience, when I used to cover council meetings—a long time ago, but I think the situation hasn't changed a lot—planning officers will sometimes face local opposition from members about planning applications, but they tend to say, 'Well, you know, the applicant will win this on appeal, so we have to push this through.' So, planning permission gets given. Then, the next case comes up, and they cite the precedent and they say, 'Ah, well, we gave the planning permission to this one, so we have to give it to that one.' So, we then end up with large numbers of fast food joints in condensed areas, which certainly does not do the air quality a lot of good. So, I think we do have to address a lot of these things through looking at the planning system.

We do now have a future generations commissioner here in Wales, which is potentially a good development. She's a very able person. I hope she will be able to have a meaningful input into these things. But she has to be able to have some, as I say, meaningful input into putting a stop to things like councils building willy-nilly on green belt land, and councils knocking down their bus stations to build huge office block complexes, which will drag more commuters into central urban areas. And the Welsh Government will need, ultimately, to take proactive measures in these areas, rather than simply talking about issues and sometimes passing legislation, like the Active Travel (Wales) Act 2013, which doesn't seem to really do much to alter the situation, although I'm sure it was passed with good intent. We need to look at how that actually works, how that policy works, and make it work in a more meaningful way.

Looking at today's motion, as I say, we support the aim of improving air quality. We do have an issue with clean air zones, because we feel that we need to provide better alternatives first before we start banning people from driving particular cars into towns and cities. After all, if we banned all of the drivers with fossil-fuelled cars from driving into Cardiff and Swansea tomorrow, I'm sure there wouldn't be the capacity on the buses and trains for people to get into those places at all, and we don't currently have the infrastructure for electric cars. Sure, we need to progress with these things, and my sentiments are with Simon Thomas—let's move forward with developing this kind of infrastructure—but at the moment, it's not there. In UKIP, it does feel to us like putting the cart before the horse, so we don't really currently support that particular notion. So, for that reason we oppose today's motion, unless it's amended by our own amendment, which raises that issue. Thanks very much.