7. Statement by the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Services: Brexit — The Risks for the Future of Health and Social Care in Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:33 pm on 26 June 2018.

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Photo of Caroline Jones Caroline Jones UKIP 5:33, 26 June 2018

Like the majority of the UK voting public, I voted to leave the EU, and my opinion hasn't changed. Our NHS was created long before the EU and will be here long after we leave. Are there risks? Yes, but no-one really expects that these risks won’t be addressed in a future deal.

We are leaving the EU, not Europe. Our continuing co-operation with European nations will continue, and I expect some will be strengthened. I agree that we have to ensure that medicines, equipment and staff should be free of restrictions wherever possible.

People are predicting that Brexit will lead to the collapse of our NHS because we will lose doctors and nurses. But let’s not forget that just over 2 per cent of NHS staff come from EU countries and just over 5 per cent of our doctors and nurses come from the European Union. The vast majority of our foreign-trained doctors come from the Indian sub-continent, followed by Egypt and Iraq. Cabinet Secretary, what discussions have you had with the UK Government about making it easier to recruit non-EU foreign-trained doctors and nurses following Brexit?

Cabinet Secretary, have you considered the risks to the future of health and social care in Wales of the UK remaining in the EU? After all, if it had been up to EU negotiators, our NHS would be at the mercy of large American corporations as a result of the transatlantic trade and investment partnership.

We need to be looking outward and not inward as we go forward. We live in an age where collaboration is taking place on a global scale. Science doesn’t see borders and if we are to tackle big challenges to our health and well-being, we have to co-operate on a global scale. The EU alone won’t tackle antimicrobial resistance. The EU alone won't combat cancer, heart disease or the obesity crisis. We have to work closer with all nations—EU and non-EU countries—to face these challenges. So, Cabinet Secretary, do you truly believe that it's in the EU's best interests to isolate the UK in the way you highlight in your statements? Although we have different opinions on Brexit, we do need to work together to ensure that our NHS and social care sectors do not suffer as a result of Brexit. I don't believe they will, unless the EU takes a political decision to punish the UK. So, it is in all our interests to ensure that this doesn't happen. Thank you.