8. Plaid Cymru debate: Hydrogen energy

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:17 pm on 27 June 2018.

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Photo of Mr Simon Thomas Mr Simon Thomas Plaid Cymru 5:17, 27 June 2018

(Translated)

What we hope to see here is that the Government, and Wales itself becomes a nation that is in the vanguard and leads in developing the hydrogen industry. It is something that is swiftly expanding across the world. It is something that is very much developing in nations that are interested in research and new methods. There is a hydrogen community at a global level where information is shared, and I do think that there is an opportunity for us as a nation that is flexible and is of the right size, as it were, with an innovative Government, to lead on many of these areas. I very much hope—I would be delighted, in fact—if the Welsh Government were able to bring together some sort of summit of all of these organisations to demonstrate that we do want to lead the way.

We believe that an investment in the hydrogen economy is something that could go along with active travel, clean air zones, with electric vehicles. Hydrogen doesn’t outdo these, of course, as I said; it is one of the measures to tackle air pollution and climate change.

There are numerous nations now that are experimenting with these methods. There are hydrogen buses in places like Aberdeen and Birmingham. London is investing in hydrogen buses, and I think we only have three electric buses throughout the whole of Wales, and they aren’t on the roads as of yet, so we are falling behind. Germany may have been knocked out of the World Cup today but they are investing in hydrogen trains, with Austria, Ontario and China also looking into this. Costa Rica is a nation looking to invest in hydrogen trains. There’s an excellent opportunity for us to develop there.

I noted from the schedule to the supplementary budget that £5 million has been allocated by the Cabinet Secretary for developments that will come as a result of not proceeding with proposals in Blaenau Gwent on the Circuit of Wales, and that they are now looking into possibilities of investing in low-carbon technologies in Blaenau Gwent. It would be wonderful to see if that could also be used for developing the hydrogen economy. We can lead the way here. I saw just last week that the Scottish Government had supported a hydrogen ship to be built in Scotland. Those are the opportunities available to us, and I very much hope, despite the slightly unambitious amendments of the Government, that we can take full advantage of this technology and lead the world.