Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:33 pm on 3 July 2018.
I just wanted to make a contribution based on some of the evidence that was presented to the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee, of which I'm a member—and some of that evidence as recently as yesterday—and to ask Welsh Government how it views this alongside the Wales Centre for Public Policy report. Can I begin by saying, though, that I think this must be one of the first—if not the first—Welsh Government Brexit debate that includes the word 'opportunities', which is a positive word, albeit in the title of the report that has prompted it? At last, I think we seem to have reached a place where we can start talking about opportunities to be won from a sensible Brexit, after years of doom and gloom being the only tradable commodities in this Chamber.
Now, I think we need to start concentrating and start planning for carving out some opportunities, looking for the fact—and allowing for the fact, of course—that we don't know where we might find them at this point in the negotiations. Because whether you view this as the crumbs and the ashes or the gold that paves the streets, I don't particularly care; I just want us to start doing it, and to recognise that free trade with the EU and free trade with the rest of the planet is not a binary choice, and to support the Prime Minister in her attempts to get the best of both. Because we can't eat principles, and intransigence will not slake our thirst, and we can leave the European Union with a comprehensive free-trade agreement and a pragmatic menu that won't please the ultra-carnivores, won't please the ultra-vegans, but can still keep both parties at the table, healthy, well-fed and free to eat at other tables.
Now, the freeing up of the UK fishing fleet is absolutely one of those opportunities, and, acknowledging dissatisfaction with quotas, in our committee, we were told by Professor Richard Barnes that, and I quote him, drifting further from the continent is definitely an appealing option for fisheries. And not least in Wales, where perhaps at least we could consider throwing around ideas about how we can make the most of this—whether it's feasible, even, to grow that small part of our fishing fleet that currently falls outside the operation of quotas. That, of course, will take a determined voice from Wales—somebody with something valuable to say. But that is true also, Cabinet Secretary, of our smaller vessels, and I'm glad you mentioned those earlier, because, obviously, 90 per cent of our Welsh fish catch is outside the EU quota system, as we've already heard. That strong voice is going to be particularly important for tailored environmental support as well, and I endorse what, actually, David Melding and Jenny Rathbone have said about the importance of sustainable fishing and the fishing environment for this.
We heard in our committee yesterday that the ministerial fora that brings the relevant Cabinet Secretaries, Ministers and so on from the four national administrations together to help inform the JMC (EN) work particularly well in the case of DEFRA. You mentioned those conversations, Cabinet Secretary, in your opening speech, and I hope that you can confirm for us that that relationship works well and that your voice is heard during the conversations you have. Because as a Member, of course, of South Wales West, with its productive shellfish seaboard, particularly in the west, my constituents will hold you to those reassurances that you've given today, that non-quota stocks won't be overlooked in moves to influence the UK Government on that exciting bigger picture.
We also heard that, as of yesterday, the Welsh Government's Brexit transition fund—that's £50 million this year alone—has paid out just £2.1 million to the food sector so far in order to protect it from the effects of Brexit. Now, Professor Barnes told us—and I think we will agree with this, won't we—that the overriding importance is to make sure that there is a market for our fishing products. Transition is a period to start looking for those new markets, those new opportunities, even if we can't access them straight away. So, this £50 million transition fund can be used to start scoping out new markets, planning how we might start looking now for those opportunities, and exploiting the connections that Welsh Government has promised us through its network of offices around the globe. I urge our fishing fleet, and all our food and drink producers, actually, not just to recognise the challenges presented by the range of possible Brexits, as referred to in the motion, but to start thinking about the opportunities and to use some of this £50 million to start identifying them. Thank you.