Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:50 pm on 17 July 2018.
I would be very happy to do that. We have been discussing for some months the parts of the legislation that will be dealing with electoral reform, and, as the Member has acknowledged in her contribution, like her, I agree with PR, proportional voting, and I do think that that would be a help in creating much more diversity within local government and in ensuring that many more people have the opportunity to stand for election and to be elected as councillors, and I'd like to see that. If the Member has any additional suggestions for doing this through changing the law, I'm very happy to consider them, and I'm very happy to consider asking the working party to consider different options to ensure that there is more diversity within local government. I'm very willing to ensure that we have scope to discuss that over the next weeks and months.
When it comes to proportional voting, the Member is aware of the statement that I made back in January about the Government's proposals in this area. We want to offer councils the power to change the system themselves. I would like to introduce a policy that would ensure that we had proportional voting here and for councils across Wales, but the Member is aware that the support for that isn't available to us. So, until there is support for that, we will continue with the current policy, but I'm very happy to join the Member to campaign for proportional voting across Wales and in every part of our democratic institutions, from councils to this place, the Senedd, and the Westminster Parliament. I do think it's important to change our politics.
When it comes to the changes, can I say this? The Plaid Cymru spokesperson has focused on one side of this, namely council mergers. I'd like to look more broadly than that. What's important to me is considering the importance of the citizen and looking at how we ensure that citizens, wherever they live, whatever their geographical situation and whatever community they live in, whether urban or rural, have the kind of services that they need, and that we create the kind of democracy, democratic accountability and democratic structures to ensure that that happens.
I think that we have an opportunity here to go much further than talking just about mergers, and I don't want the discussion that we're going to have over the next few months to focus just on mergers. What I want to see is how we run our systems on a regional basis, how we decide that some services can be shared between different authorities, the relationship between local government and other parts of the public sector, the relationship between local government and the health service, for example, how local government ensures that it plays a greater role in economic development—there are several questions here for us to answer, and there are several discussions that we can have over the coming months.
So, I do hope that we will have a discussion that's more broadly framed than just discussing mergers, and a discussion that is richer than that. And I do think that the process over the past few months has created a foundation and a different situation, where local government leaders do acknowledge that we need change and are willing to discuss what kind of change we're going to have. And I look forward to the kind of discussion that we will have in the coming months.