Diolch, Llywydd. I'm also extremely grateful to Jack for tabling this debate today, because of course Wales can and should lead the way to promote kinder and more diverse politics. The quality of the discourse in this Chamber and elsewhere in public life of course should set the tone for public debate in Wales, and, Deputy Presiding Officer, I too think that the level of debate in the Chamber has changed significantly over the last year or so, and I regret that as well.

I didn't hear the exchange between my colleague Kirsty Williams and Darren Millar earlier on, but I would like to say something that I have been very struck by here—we can often have very vigorous disagreements, vigorous debate, vigorous argument, and Darren and I have exchanged vigorous and passionate views on opposite sides of the spectrum, but what the public don't see is that, actually, we're friendly outside, that we have much more in common than that which divides us. If you wanted to do it as a percentage, we actually agree on a very large amount—we're arguing about a very small amount of difference. We're actually all here for the same reason: we're here because we want to make Wales a better place for constituents and for all of us, and we have a different route-map to get there, but we're all trying to get to the same place. So, I think what the debate does is it highlights that.

So often in public life, it's regarded as a sort of adversarial thing, but we all know that, actually, much of what we do here is consensual, that we argue about small bits of factual detail and nuance, but, actually, very largely we agree. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to get legislation through. We're often going in the same direction, but perhaps we have a slightly different route. If you want to use the Google Maps analogy: your estimated time of arrival might be two minutes slower if you go down this route, but we're trying to get to the same place.

Actually, I think that's something we should talk about more. In encouraging, for example, young women to come forward into politics, it's often a surprise to them that we get on very well, that we all, across the parties, get on well outside of the Chamber, that we often have that discourse, because what they see, of course, is the vigorous debate in here. They assume that that goes out into the committees and so on, because, actually, people don't watch the committees as much. They don't see the consensual working, the hard work and the detail that goes on in them. I think, actually, we've got a duty to make sure that people do see that bit of consensual—to quote the Jo Cox quote that Darren used, we do have

'more in common than that which divides us.'

It sometimes takes a horrific act like the death of the MP Jo Cox to bring forward that kind of surge of emotion. I was very struck by how, after Jo died, for a moment, the media talked about politicians as the public servants we all know they are, and this terrible dichotomy that we all have where a local politician is often very admired locally, but, actually, politicians in general are not. There was a little surge, wasn't there, of people actually understanding all of that work, and then we relapsed back into the hurly-burly of everyday life? But I think that the positive behaviour and role modelling should actually be something we celebrate, and when we do talk to the young people in our youth parliament, for example, and Jack's highlighted this, we should get them to have that kind of consensus building, because you know that we all achieve more when we build that consensus, and we're often trying to go in the same direction.

I think there are several things that we need to also really consider very hard in this Chamber. There are things we could do, the Commission could do and we could all do, around things like internships—paid internships, proper internships—that encourage people who are not currently represented in the Chamber to be here. So, specific internships for people with disabilities, for example, or people from diverse communities who are not currently represented here could be offered so that we can show people that this place is a welcoming place for all of them.

I recently met with a group, just like the Deputy Presiding Officer, of young people from a diverse range of ethnic minority backgrounds, and I was very struck by them saying that they had not felt welcome in the building because, when they looked through the glass walls into the building, they didn't see anybody who looked like them, and so they didn't feel it was a place for them. I was quite shocked by that. I think we need to do something about that. We need to make sure that this place is a welcoming, transparent place for all of our communities in Wales, for our young people as well as—well, for every community. That's the point. And people do look to see somebody who looks like them, to see if that place is a welcoming place for them. I personally, for example, would find it very difficult to walk into a coffee shop or a bar that didn't have anyone that looked like me in it. I think I probably wouldn't be very welcome there, and you can extrapolate that into public life. And you do see that that lack of role model really matters. 

In terms of things like hate crime, Jack mentioned the rise in hate crime. We are working very hard to make sure that we encourage people to come forward and report all of the crime that happens, because we know that there is under-reporting, and part of that issue is people—and we've spoken to all of our police commissioner colleagues on this as well—understanding that something will be done if they report it because, actually, there's a lot of assumption around that. The police commissioners across the party spectrum have worked very hard to ensure that, actually, something will be done if you report such a crime and that we highlight that—that this is not an acceptable way to behave in modern Wales, and we've worked very hard to do that. 

Similarly with our asylum and refugee plan and our nation of sanctuary plan, which we are very proud of and which we are just analysing the responses to. We want to make sure that everyone in Wales can make a proper contribution to our life, that they can use the talents that they brought with them in Wales for all of our benefit. We know that we couldn't run our national health service, we couldn't run many of our public services without the contribution of people who came here, escaping sometimes the most horrendous situations and then are able to turn themselves around and use their skills for our benefit. I'm never happier than when I see that happen, and I hope you will see the really lovely video that's available on Facebook—it comes up very often on my feed anyway—of the two young people in traditional Muslim dress in Carmarthenshire speaking Welsh over a stream. It's extremely heart-warming, and they talk about how their lives have changed since they've been in Wales in Welsh, which is just absolutely lovely. I think it's that kind of role model that we need—those young people to come forward into public life having made a life here that Jack is highlighting. So, I'm delighted that he said that. 

I just want to say one last thing about that. [Interruption.] Of course, Angela.