Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:20 pm on 26 September 2018.
I know Lee Waters doesn't accept this, but improved roads can reduce emissions. If you've got to make a journey to a hospital, how else do you suggest that people make it to A&E—by cycle or walking to A&E?
Pembrokeshire lives at risk—. Providing healthcare in rural areas is difficult, but it is not impossible. Other people do it.
We also know that a similar petition regarding A&E in Llanelli has been received, and I'm sure that Lee Waters doesn't want to close some of the dual carriageways around Llanelli in order to reduce—[Interruption.]—in order to reduce the amount of emissions.
I do not believe that Hywel Dda works as a health board. I've said it many times. I do not think Hywel Dda works as a health board. The area covered is too large. In ABMU, travelling between Morriston, Singleton and Baglan is relatively easy for most people. You can travel by bus—not necessarily very easily. You can travel by car relatively easily. Travelling around the four main hospitals in Hywel Dda is very difficult by car, and, in many cases, I would suggest, close to impossible by public transport. If Powys can have its own health board, why cannot Pembrokeshire? Powys was a 1973 invention, while Pembrokeshire has existed for centuries.
I was going to say that no-one sees Dyfed as a unit for service delivery anymore, but I will not say that, because I know one person, probably the one person in Wales, who does. I'm afraid that very few people living in the area see it as a sensible unit for service delivery. I ask any other Members representing the area covered by Dyfed—if they see a sensible area for service delivery, please get up and correct me.