Thank you for that answer, Minister. Sadly, there are parts of my constituency that continue to suffer from extensive problems of fly-tipping. It's quite difficult to understand the mindset of people who will drive a truck up a hill and dump rubbish, causing visual blights on areas of natural beauty like the Gelligaer common. I believe that many of these issues do come from unlicensed operators who've been paid in good faith to dispose of household and building rubbish. If the outcome that we all wish for is less fly-tipping, can you advise me whether the Welsh Government or anyone else has researched the balance between the carrots and sticks in these situations that could encourage a more responsible attitude, and whether, for example, you've considered the cost-effectiveness of lifting charges at disposal sites versus the cost to local authorities of clearing up fly-tipping?