Questions Without Notice from Party Spokespeople

Part of 2. Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Local Government and Public Services – in the Senedd at 2:41 pm on 3 October 2018.

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Photo of Bethan Sayed Bethan Sayed Plaid Cymru 2:41, 3 October 2018

Thank you for the answer, but I'm frankly not as reassured as you. In our local government committee last week we heard evidence from the fire service, and they said there are people who are undertaking fire-risk assessments who are not competent, that people are taking off fire doors from flats and replacing them with those that are not as safe, and that there is no money for either the fire service or local authorities to monitor safety. In fact, three witnesses made it clear, because there was a lack of expertise, a lack of those resources, and confusion over responsibility across the board, that they weren't sure that they could be keeping the resources where they needed them to go.

I think it's worth me quoting one of those who came to give evidence, Dave Holland, head of shared regulatory services between Bridgend, Cardiff and the Vale of Glamorgan, who said, and I quote:

'In 1991, when the regulations first came in, it's an oddity that we had a community of capable enforcers in the trading standards service, reasonably well resourced, but a set of regulations that were difficult to apply. That's now turned itself upside down; we have a fairly robust set of regulations, but we don't have the competent enforcers and the resources anymore.'

Now, isn't it clear to you, and to me standing here, that, if we're going to cut council resources even more, they won't be able to get out onto the building sites, which they want to do? How can you be assured of the safety of residents if vital checks are simply not taking place?