With regard to Rhun ap Iorwerth, at least I knew what some of the ideas were that came from Plaid Cymru, in terms of the way ahead, as they saw it. I don’t think that an energy company can solve every problem. With the clean air Act, well, legislation is one thing, but what’s vital is that we act and that’s what we’re doing as a Government.

In terms of the childcare plan, the aim of that is to help working people—that’s what it is. I was in the Rhondda a fortnight ago, and people told me, 'Well, we thought it was only for people with benefits, but I’m only working 18 hours a week and I can’t believe I’ve got free childcare.' So, those people do see great benefit in that scheme.