Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:49 pm on 16 October 2018.
Can I extend my support for the finance Secretary in much of what he says in his statement? I don't think it's at all unreasonable for him to say that it would be unacceptable for Wales to be a penny worse off as a result of the Brexit settlement, whatever that might be, although I disagree with him saying 'as promised during the referendum campaign'. The only people who could promise that during the referendum campaign were the Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, both of whom, of course, were remainers. But I do not think it unreasonable that, as a result of Brexit, Wales should be not a penny worse off; in fact, we should better off, because for every £1 that we get back of British taxpayers' money from Brussels, we have to send out £2 in the first place. So, it's not EU money, it's British taxpayers' money, albeit funnelled back to us through the aegis of EU institutions.