Of course, the Gadlys ironworks are well known, and their comparison with Merthyr has been well made, but they both, of course, fade into insignificance when compared with Sirhowy, where the ironworks there—. It's a good example, actually, of where an extraordinarily important part of our heritage was left to rot and to decay for decade after decade, because we—all of us here from the region—never understood its importance in historical terms. It's us who left it there—we can't blame a London Government or far-away places for allowing that to happen. It is to ensure that future generations are able to learn and understand that that we wish to invest in these places today.

I look at these places—my poor old eight-year-old son has spent far too much of his holidays, I think, being taken by his father to visit various places. I get the sense quite often he would prefer to be watching tv, but he's dragged across to—. He's been to Blaenavon on many occasions, he's too short to go down to Big Pit, but it'll come. He hasn't visited Gadlys yet, but he will do so, and he's visited the history of Merthyr as well, where you've got the history of railways as well, of course, taking place there. 

But let's look at that issue about the tunnels. I visited the Rhondda last week, I went to Blaencwm and spoke to the group of people there who were hoping to reopen the tunnel between Blaencwm and Blaengwynfi. When I was driving away from there, I was left with the idea of fantastic creativity more than anything else—the creativity of people who know their place, and the creativity of people who understand their place, and the creativity of people who have ambition for their place and their community. In driving this project forward, it won't be civil servants in Cathays Park, or even Ministers in Cardiff Bay, it'll be those people who have an idea, a dream, an identity, a sense of place and a sense of history that will drive forward this project, and make a great success of it. And that is why the Member for the Cynon Valley talks about the foundational economy. It is essential, in doing so, that the wealth that we create remains in the community, and it remains as part of that community, helping to not simply regenerate that community, but recreate those communities. And, you know, for me—and the Conservatives spokesperson outlined this himself—the success of this project will be measured in cultural and historic terms, but we must always recognise the importance of creating sustainable work in our Valley communities. I hope that we'll be able to do that, and that the wealth that we generate will be able to remain in the community.

Can I just say a word about Ynysybwl? The last time I visited Ynysybwl, I was on my way to Llanwonno, and I called into the Fountain up there; some Members may be aware of it. And walking around—I didn't follow Nyth Brân's example of running to Mountain Ash, but I walked through the forestry of Llanwonno, and I have to say you could be anywhere in the world, the spectacular forestry we have there, natural woodland as well. It's something that I think we should think hard about: how do we in Wales create a forestry or a woodland that is part of our identity? And, I was walking through the Clydach Gorge above my own constituency down to Abergavenny some weeks ago, looking at the natural woodland there. That is a historic woodland of Wales. It is a historical environment, a historical ecosystem, so how do we safeguard that into the future, and how do we ensure that we have not only the water management we need to have, the ecosystem management that we need to have, but then ensure that we have access as well, so that people are able to access these wonderful sites, understand what those sites mean? And then address the issues that were brought up in a statement on access for disabled people, to ensure that this access is available to everybody throughout the community, and that we manage that to enable everybody to benefit from it.

So, I think all of the opportunities we have here are opportunities that we will realise if we work together, and if we co-produce together something that none of us could achieve independently or apart.