Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:20 pm on 17 October 2018.
In my opening remarks and in direct response to the Conservative Members opposite, and particularly the remarks in Mark Isherwood's contribution, I ask whether they feel that the £4 billion extra that Welsh Government could have had if the block grant had kept pace with the growth in the economy since 2010 might have been one useful way for Wales and our health and social care service system to respond to some of the pressures that they describe. And in exactly the same way, whether they think it would be useful to know exactly how much money Wales is going to be getting from the Prime Minister's recent unfunded NHS birthday pledge, or how much extra money Wales is going to get from the end of austerity, as the UK Prime Minister now leads us to believe is about to happen. Because even though the Welsh Government and partners are well advanced with planning for the winter ahead, they do so without certainty as to when the extra funding is becoming available from the UK Treasury.
Last week, the party of austerity were calling for more money for local government services. Now they want more spending on capacity in the NHS. I don't think the irony of this going to be lost on the people of Wales.