5. Statement by the Leader of the House and Chief Whip: Broadband Update

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:24 pm on 23 October 2018.

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Photo of Julie James Julie James Labour 4:24, 23 October 2018

This is a very political and philosophical point, really, and the world has moved—. In the last debate, we talked about the difference in the world in five years, and this is a very excellent example of it. So, to be fair, when the UK Government started out on this journey, as did we, it was a luxury technology and some people really didn't want to be connected all the time. I've often cited in this Chamber that the Brecon Beacons had as its advertising slogan, 'Come to Brecon Beacons and be disconnected'—you know, that was a good thing. Now, it is not a good thing, and nobody argues that anymore, and that's a huge and significant change in the way we live our lives. The fact that we're carrying more computer power in our pockets than was existing in the world when I first started to work says something; it's a testimony to the change in the technology. But Government policy has lagged behind that, in my view, and the fact that it's now an essential connectivity and essential infrastructure—. It lagged behind—the policy development. We do have that conversation with them, very often. We had a long and ultimately not very fruitful conversation about the universal service obligation, which is still not resolved because we still don't actually know what it means by 'universal', and, anyway, it's only at 10 Mbps, which, as the Member rightly points out, is very rapidly not enough.

One of the things I would say is that we're very anxious that people who think that their connectivity requirements might go up over 30 Mbps, which is the guaranteed amount on the superfast scheme, should contact the business connectivity services as soon as possible, because we have an advisory service that can go out and forecast your future needs, and, actually, you might be much better to go with the ultrafast connectivity voucher very quickly, and you'd have a much better connection. So, each individual business, in particular, is very different.

In terms of putting the numbers the other way around, we've got 16,000 premises already in lots 1 and 3. I don't know how many are in the next lot; I hope to be able to announce that in the next 10 days. Much of the complexity of the discussion is around pinpointing exactly where the tenderer says they're going so that we can have the certainty that we've often discussed in this Chamber. So, I don't absolutely know, but the overall number of premises at this point—and as I say, as the house builders build, it changes—is 90,000 premises, so you can do the math. We knew that when we embarked on this, £80 million would probably not be enough to get to all of those. As I say, you can still buy the service, but it's expensive. And the other thing I would say—and I say this all the time, acting Deputy Presiding Officer—it's astonishing to me that when people buy a home, they don't knock the price of the connection off the cost of the house these days. I expected to see house prices affected by this, and as yet, they aren't in very many areas.