6. Statement by the Minister for Welsh Language and Lifelong Learning: The Review of Further Education Funding

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:44 pm on 20 November 2018.

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Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 4:44, 20 November 2018

Can I thank the Minister for her statement, and can I also basically applaud the Welsh Government's decision to actually fund the pay awards both for lecturers and for support staff? Because so often support staff are not thought of in these discussions, and they are the crucial pin that actually allows the whole process to work. So, I'm very much pleased with that.

A couple of quick questions for you, Minister. I agree with Bethan in the sense that part-time provision is crucial. We need to look at how we address this issue. Now, your statement says you're going to prioritise those who only hold level 2 or below, but we can't ignore the level 3s, because they are the ways in which we can upskill our workforce and provide people opportunities to move on and, as you highlighted in your answer, to actually better themselves out of in-work poverty situations. So, can you give us reassurances that you will also be supportive of programmes above level 2 if there's evidence to demonstrate that that need is there by the regional skills partnerships as well?

In the RSPs, will you also confirm that they will look not just at regional needs, but national needs, because very often what is good in a part of Wales might not be appropriate for another part of Wales? But we don't want to stop the social mobility of the students to travel. For example, something in south-east Wales—if it's only delivered in south-east Wales, we shouldn't deny people in south-west Wales or west Wales the opportunities to actually gain skills that might allow them to move into those types of professions.

You also indicated that you will be doing the financial or checking the financial—funding, basically. You won't pay if the plans are not delivered. How often will you assess those plans to ensure that they are being delivered? Are you also going to assess the financial management of the colleges to ensure that they are delivering on the outcomes that they should be delivering on? We've seen how FE colleges grow, some of them quite large, and some have spin-off businesses as a consequence of putting extra funding in, so what I want to make sure is that they are delivering on the objectives set by Welsh Government for the funding from Welsh Government.

Could you also tell me—? In your statement you highlighted that you've done some of these things—parts of the uplift have been looked at—but then you talk about that other elements will be looked at in the next academic year. Well, what elements will be looked at in the next academic year? Will they be all the remaining elements, or will they be a proportion of those elements, and some looked at in the year after that? I suppose the most important thing is: how are you going to ensure that the hit that FE took—and we all recognise the hit that FE took—is not irreversible, that we are going to deliver? Because there are many people out there who need access to those access courses, to return-to-work courses, to get them back into the opportunity of working. That is an area sometimes we forget about—the adult education aspects, which bring that person back into the world of educational learning and give them the enthusiasm to move on and gain work places.