8. Debate: The Law Derived from the European Union (Wales) Act 2018 (Repeal) Regulations 2018

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:02 pm on 20 November 2018.

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Photo of Mark Drakeford Mark Drakeford Labour 6:02, 20 November 2018

Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd. Thanks to all Members who've taken part in this important and thoughtful debate. Let me begin by reflecting on what Darren Millar and David Melding just said. The point at which I don't agree with them is when they have argued that the continuity Bill was a distraction to the process of securing the inter-governmental agreement. In my experience of being in the room and in those discussions, it was integral to achieving the inter-governmental agreement. I'm very proud of the Act and what was achieved here, because it genuinely did provide us with leverage at a very important point in the process. The fact that we had it undoubtedly made the achievement of the sort of inter-governmental agreement that we were able to negotiate more likely, not less likely.

Our belief is that the IGA is better than the Act—that's why we regard it as right today to move to repeal of the Act. But I don't agree at all that the Bill and the debate here, and the fact that we put it on the statute book—that that did not play an integral and pivotal part in allowing us to get to that inter-governmental agreement. Darren asked why we had delayed in bringing the repeal forward. The reason for that is that we needed to allow the process that we had set out in the inter-governmental agreement to be demonstrated—we needed to see that it was being honoured on both sides. The report that was put in front of Parliament last week, I think, provides us with that evidence and allows us to move to repeal this afternoon.

Darren Millar asked about frameworks. It is because we are making such progress with frameworks that there is now no prospect of the freezing parts of the withdrawal Act being used. So, a great deal of work has gone on. We are now at a stage agreed in the Joint Ministerial Committee earlier this month that, in December, we will see the first of the frameworks come in front of the JMC for review. They are in fisheries management and support, animal health and welfare, hazardous substances planning, and nutrition. The Scottish Government, as Darren Millar said, has played a full part in all those discussions, and will be part of the JMC consideration of them in December, and then we will go out to consult with stakeholders who have an interest in those four areas, before they come back to the JMC for that final part of the shared governance that the IGA sets up and which is being delivered in that way.