9. Debate: How do we achieve a low carbon energy system for Wales?

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:24 pm on 20 November 2018.

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Photo of Neil McEvoy Neil McEvoy Independent 6:24, 20 November 2018

Diolch, Dirprwy Llywydd. On 24 October, I was the only Assembly Member who voted to oppose nuclear power in Wales. I found that quite incredible given how much opposition there is to nuclear power from the public and supposedly from other politicians. If he were here, I would say to the alleged anti-nuclear Labour leadership candidate, the AM for Cardiff West, who voted to dump nuclear mud in Wales and who did not oppose nuclear power last time, 'Here is an opportunity to reject nuclear energy and put it on the record.' The same goes for the Labour AM for Cardiff Central, who also is not here. She claims to be an environmentalist and anti-nuclear, but said the waters just outside Cardiff were the go-to sites to dump mud dredged from outside Hinkley Point nuclear power station. I find that astonishing. The Labour AM for Cardiff Central also failed to oppose nuclear power last time. Well, the AM is not bound by the whip this time, so maybe—maybe—she may vote against nuclear energy.

A justification for some in not opposing nuclear power is that energy here is not devolved—it's not devolved to this Assembly. Well, just because a matter is not devolved, that does not mean that we should not have a position on it. Far from it, far from it. We debate Brexit, yet have no power here to deal with the dog's dinner of it made by the Conservatives. We're not just here to sit back and let the Conservative Government in England dump whatever they want on us. If we want to get some respect, we have to kick up a fuss and say 'no', in the national interest of Wales. So, that's why, today, we've got a new amendment that I've introduced, this time calling on the Welsh Government to oppose the use of nuclear power as a means to achieve a low-carbon energy system. Nuclear power is not low-carbon. It is not sustainable. There is a much higher carbon cost than for renewables. Nuclear power plants will generate as much carbon as gas-powered stations in the future. I think that's worth saying because I don't think many people realise that nuclear power stations will generate as much carbon as gas-powered stations in the future. That's because the grade of uranium is decreasing.

We're a country blessed with natural resources: water, wind, tides and even a bit of sun, sometimes. Why not use those natural resources and not import uranium, producing nuclear waste and taking huge risks with the future of Wales and the health of our people? Research by the federal Government of Germany shows that there are increased cancer rates around nuclear power stations, and that's one of the reasons why they're being phased out in Germany.

Now, if this Labour Government in Wales is serious about achieving a low-carbon energy system, then we must oppose nuclear energy and send a clear message to the Conservatives in England to keep their reactors out of our country. Support the amendment and oppose nuclear in Wales. Diolch.