Well, I couldn't really disagree with the Member more. Clearly, we have to arrange for services to be delivered in the best possible fashion, but there is a clear, determined, publicly stated, open and transparent principle at stake, which is: where possible, we deliver it by public sector staff, free at the point of delivery. Clearly, there are some instances where we have to use private sector providers in the short term in order to cover off to make sure that the service is delivered, and the Member would be the first to stand on his feet and criticise us if we didn't do that. But there's clearly not a route to privatisation on a wholesale basis, as he suggests.