I'll start there, because that allows me to talk about the two together. We've set up a task and finish group of stakeholders to develop the sustainable funding model, after all of the work that we were doing, as I said in answer to Leanne Wood, around sorting out the necessary infrastructure to regionalise the commissioning. And then we realised, as a result of various submissions, from all over Wales, that people were not in a position to do that, and there were various difficulties. So, rather than forging ahead with that—we very much want this to work, in the end, so what we did was we rowed back from that a little bit. And the task and finish group is chaired by one of the national advisers, Yasmin Khan, with a view to us working out the sustainable funding model that everybody involved in the sector actually buys into and agrees. So, the timescale did slip, but I thought it was much more important to have that sustainable funding model than to have the rigid timetable and then not have something that worked.

In terms of whether there was a penalty or a consequence of them not having done it, we had to consider that, because I didn't think that, where we are in the cycle, that was a proportionate response. So, we decided that that wasn't a proportionate response in this instance. However, it's possible to have that if, in further iterations, the timescale isn't met. But given where we are in the Act, and this is new territory and so on, and given that they'd got their drafts in, we didn't think that was a proportionate response. But it is possible to do that later on in the cycle if we do have somebody who doesn't produce it in good time.

In terms of the refuge provision, what we want to look at is the assessment of need coming back from the local authorities, what's currently funded at the moment, what the map of that looks like and how that matches. This is a very complex area, because it's not just Welsh Government funding—there are a raft of other sets of funding: lots of charities fund in this area, the UK Government tampon tax funds in this area, and a number of other things do. So, what we want to do is put a set of fundings together that allow people to get the best out of that jigsaw and to kind of provide a pathway through it, because you don't want to have a PhD in how some of that fits together to be able to access it, and to stop the constant competition for small amounts of money that goes on in groups of people we'd like to have collaboration from. So, that's no small task and finish group that the national advisers are chairing, but I'm told it's going very well, and we are very hopeful that we'll have a seriously sustainable funding model coming back out of it.