Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:21 pm on 27 November 2018.
Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. I'm sure you'll agree it's been another uplifting debate on the nature of austerity here. I think it is something that does no credit to this place, or to politics, to listen to Conservative Members stand up and decry the policies and the impact and the effect of policies of a Government they claim to support in the United Kingdom whilst, at the same time, washing their hands of all responsibility for the impacts of those policies. But let me say one thing, as I begin my remarks this afternoon. Let me say this: whatever we do to the formula or with the formula in terms of taking it forward, developing it, I will never, as Cabinet Secretary, fix the formula to support either Labour-supporting councils or councils in my particular region.
We have heard, over the last hour, Conservative after Conservative stand up and tell us, basically, that the formula should be fixed. They have rooted community against community in this country this afternoon in all of their conversations. I am not going to do this. But I tell you what I will do, let me tell you what I will do. When I receive a letter from the WLGA, signed by all four political leaders, telling me that they request a review of that formula, I will grant it; I will not stand in its way. Let me say this: the formula was first introduced, of course, by a predecessor of mine, a Member for Blaenau Gwent, but I feel no ownership of it, I feel that it is a shared formula between us and local government. So, let us hear that voice, let us hear what those council leaders have to say. Let us hear their voice, and if they request that fundamental review, then I would be minded to grant it. But, it will be focused on the needs of people and not to satisfy the needs of political parties. So, it won't be a Tory review; it'll be a review led by this place, independent of political parties, and independent of political chicanery of the sort we've heard behind me.