It's not green taxes that are making people poor. It's the deliberate policies of the UK Government in terms of how they choose to tax and distribute benefits. I have to agree with him on one thing—that the VAT on essential goods is not a progressive tax, but we therefore have to find another tax to replace it. Were we to leave the European Union, that is something we could do, but we have to focus on the here and now, on what the UK Government is doing to people with the choices that they are making in their budgets.