But the Treasury rules on borrowing have not been fully lifted so that you can borrow against the total value of the stock. If what David Melding is saying that, I can tell you we'd have large-scale building of housing taking place in Wales now. There's been a raising of the cap, but not a removal of it. But we can perhaps discuss this in another place.

The other thing I was going to say is that I congratulate Darren Millar's view that Gordon Brown had complete power over the whole of the world's economy. He caused the recession in Spain, he caused the recession in Greece; he caused one in Iceland and he caused one in the whole of North America. The countries that avoided the big problems were Norway, Sweden and Finland, and what did they have? They had a socialist government, working on behalf of the people.