I welcome this statement, and I look forward to seeing the blueprints when they are published. As a general point, I know that these blueprints are covering two particular areas of female offenders and young people, but would the Cabinet Secretary agree that there is a very strong case for making great concerted efforts to generally bring down the prison population in Wales? Because, certainly, the UK commits more people to prison than almost any other country, and so I think there's a general point there that I wonder if the Cabinet Secretary would address.

And I also welcome the proposal to have a distinct penal strategy, and I also welcome the fact that the Cabinet Secretary does want to have the criminal justice system devolved because, as it is at the moment, we're stuck in a halfway house, where we have to work within the parameters of the current devolution settlement, which is very unsatisfactory, because, obviously, aspects of the justice system that affect prisoners are devolved but major aspects are not. So, I know that the Cabinet Secretary has already said his views on that. I absolutely agree with him that the last thing we want in Wales is a women's prison. I've campaigned about this for many years, and the problems that women and their families encounter through imprisonment I think have been well catalogued and have been discussed here quite extensively this afternoon, so I won't go into that.

But I'd like to press the Cabinet Secretary just a bit more about these five women's centres and whether he actually does think one of them will be in Wales. Obviously, we would need, certainly, access to more than one in Wales, and one may be not enough, but what stage are those discussions at? Because I think we really need to be sure that Wales does have the opportunity to have access to that money that's coming from the Ministry of Justice. But I was concerned to hear that, on 9 November, the Ministry of Justice announced funding of £3.3 million for 12 community organisations to support women offenders, and none of these appear to be in Wales. So, I wondered if the Cabinet Secretary has any information about that, because I understand that a further £1.7 million is still to be awarded. So, could he tell us what discussions he's had with the Ministry of Justice about this funding and whether he has any indication of whether organisations based in Wales will benefit from them? I did look at the list of organisations that had had this money in England, and it did seem that there were some very good projects that were receiving funding, and I hope that there'll be the opportunity to look at this in Wales again.

I think we've had—. This argument about women prisoners in Wales, women offenders in Wales, has been long running, and I'm really pleased that we seem to have reached the stage where we do now acknowledge that we do need a different approach to women prisoners. So, I hope that the Cabinet Secretary will press ahead to make sure we get a residential centre in Wales and that we get some access to this money from the Ministry of Justice.