Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:15 pm on 12 December 2018.
Well, Llyr, far from dismissive. I think I've made it clear at committee and elsewhere that the discussion about where we go in future in terms of the wider childcare offer—not, by the way, in terms of the points that were raised by Siân previously, which are to do with parents who are in education and training who would not automatically fall within this offer, but I went through in detail at previous Stages exactly where there was already provision, and the fact that we were going to look at not only bringing that provision together but enhancing that provision for longer in terms of the future as well. So, I'm not dismissive of that at all. In fact, I've engaged with that thoroughly.
But this comes back to the point made by Suzy and others a moment ago. Within the explanatory memorandum for this Bill, we referred to the offer. It's necessary to do that, even though it's a narrow, technical Bill. We referred to the wider offer. But this offer does not stand on its own within Wales, it stands alongside Flying Start; it stands along with what we do with Parents Childcare and Employment, PaCE, for parents who are in work and in training; it stands alongside Families First, Children First and many other initiatives. And there is, indeed—. As I've said to you previously, Llyr, far from being dismissive, I think there is a wider piece of that seamlessness that we need to aim towards within Government, but this is, ultimately, a narrow, technical Bill to put in place HMRC and to lift the burden off the shoulders of local authorities, who are currently doing it.
So, with those remarks, finally, Dirprwy Lywydd, could I ask Members to support the motion, support this Bill at Stage 4? And I look forward, then, to bringing forward subordinate legislation during 2019.