Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:20 pm on 22 January 2019.
I thank the Minister for his statement today. I'm really concerned, and I'm sure that many people are here, that the option and the reality of a 'no deal' Brexit is still there and very much at the forefront. I can't rule that out, but I can't see any foolproof plan for making sure that it doesn't happen. I feel very strongly that the efforts of Yvette Cooper and other clear-headed MPs in Westminster are critically important here, and I also think it's why the people should have the final word on Brexit.
I want to focus my concerns around the areas that are in my region, and those are, quite clearly, the ports of Milford Haven, Pembroke Dock and Fishguard, but also the transport links that could be threatened under either the exit or a 'no deal' Brexit—the rail transport that runs right down to Fishguard. The Fishguard line, in all the inquiries that I've ever been in—a passenger line—clearly states that it's not the passenger numbers that keep it running, but the freight going down to Fishguard or to Pembroke Dock. So, if it is the case that those transport links from freight to rail are somewhat diminished or even lost, do we have any contingency plans to keep that rail open and accessible to the people who currently use it?
In terms of Milford Haven, when there was evidence to external affairs, the port of Milford Haven said that, with two thirds of Irish exports going through English and Welsh ports to the Channel ports and onwards to the continent, any establishment of an island of Ireland regulatory system that diverges from the rest of the UK—a hard border in the Irish Sea—would be deeply unhelpful to those operations. It could simply and quite clearly just cut out any of the Welsh ports whatsoever and sail happily on into Europe without landing anything.
I am particularly concerned also that, if we do continue to have freight transport going through Fishguard or any of those other ports, we are able, should there be delays, to cope with the number of lorries in those areas. There isn't exactly large-scale parking in any of these ports to cope with any delays in any way at all. Neither do we have the infrastructure that you just highlighted in the Holyhead area to deal with that. So, those are the key questions from me.