Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:39 pm on 23 January 2019.
Firstly, I'm sure you'd join with me in paying credit to the work that Steffan Lewis did in terms of taxation during his time here. The point I was going to make, though, is, yes, we have compared to England, but if you exclude London and the south-east of England, all of a sudden, we're not that different. We know that, in terms of tax raised, the south-east of England and the south of England are the only two net payers in.