Well, I asked you, First Minister, whether this situation puts lives at risk. Well, over the—you didn’t answer that point, and over the last year, the coroner in north Wales has presented a notice to the NHS in Wales in order to prevent deaths in the future on four different occasions. In these reports, the coroner draws specific attention to concerns about ambulances being held back, a shortage of staff and delays in providing treatment in A&E departments. And in his most recent report, in the case of Gladys May Williams, John Gittins, the chief coroner for north Wales, said that there is no sign that progress is being made, despite the fact that he voiced concerns time and time again. He also said that he’s extremely concerned that the lives of patients are being put at risk as a result of this.

Yesterday, before the Public Accounts Committee, Andrew Goodall, the chief executive of NHS Wales, admitted that the performance of A&E departments in Betsi Cadwaladr was unacceptable, and had deteriorated since you put the board under special measures in June 2015, three and a half years ago. And that was partly as a result of losing sight on the performance of A&E because it wasn’t an area that you prioritised for intervention from the outset.

Do you regret that now? Do you accept that the scale of this problem is so grave that we must have an independent review as a matter of urgency to look at the condition of emergency care across the whole of Wales, starting in north Wales? Or, as happened in the case of Tawel Fan, do we have to wait for further pain and unnecessary suffering before you will be willing to take responsibility and to take action?