5. Statement by the Deputy Minister and Chief Whip: Making Wales a Nation of Sanctuary

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:01 pm on 29 January 2019.

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Photo of Mark Isherwood Mark Isherwood Conservative 5:01, 29 January 2019

Thanks, again, Deputy Minister, for meeting me this morning to pre-brief me on this, and no doubt other colleagues from across the Chamber, and for your statement. We've long provided a safe haven for victims of persecution, violence, ethnic cleansing and genocide from across the world, and long may that remain the case, because if we ever lose that, we'll have lost our humanity and true identity.

In your plan, you provide definitions of asylum seekers and refugees, showing that an asylum seeker is a person fleeing persecution in his or her homeland. A refugee is a person who, owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted on grounds of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is unsafe at home. You also state the term 'refugee' includes individuals not recognised as refugees but who have been granted indefinite leave to remain. 

As I warned you this morning, I will therefore question you on the basis of concerns raised with me by a failed asylum seeker at last Friday's Holocaust memorial event in Wrexham, currently going through the appeals process. Would such persons be therefore covered by this or would they not? If not, would you consider that further to see whether they might be incorporated?

Some months ago, in June, responding to a statement by the then leader of the house on Wales—a nation of sanctuary, I noted figures from the previous year that had showed a very mixed picture for resettlement of refugees across Wales. It showed at that point that Merthyr Tydfil and Neath Port Talbot had accepted no refugees, Carmarthenshire was the highest at 51 and Swansea with 33. In north Wales, Denbighshire had 21 but only five in Flintshire and two in Conwy. The then leader of the house replied,

'The Member did raise why there is patchy take-up...but, of course, they're not the ongoing stats.'

Are you able to provide now or subsequently to Members an up-to-date picture, or as up to date as possible, of the stats so we can establish whether the situation is improving in the areas where at that point there appeared to be greater barriers?

You refer in your statement to a commitment to work with UK Government, local authorities, Welsh refugee coalition and people seeking sanctuary to deliver better outcomes, and of course you used the word co-production. You also referred to your ReStart: Refugee Integration project to deliver an ambitious integration support programme for refugees primarily in Wales for asylum dispersal clusters and state that ensuring that people seeking sanctuary can develop their knowledge of life in Wales and understand rights and opportunities as being vital to help their integration and settlement.

How do you also propose to engage with the broader population, because it's clearly a two-way process? Unless we can break down barriers to understanding at home, then no matter how well we seek to integrate our new neighbours, those barriers will persist. So, it is very much a two-way process. 

Much of the heavy lifting across Wales is already being done, often on a shoestring, by a myriad of third sector bodies and partnerships between the third sector and others. So, how do you propose to engage with such projects? I'll give you a few examples. I think I mentioned to you this morning I'm honorary president of the North Wales Association for Multicultural Integration, which has been delivering on this very agenda for a number of years. Last May, I hosted in the Assembly the Let Us Integrate through Music and Art event put on by the North Wales Association for Multicultural Integration and Cwmbran-based KIRAN, the Knowledge based Inter-community Relationship and Awareness Network, aimed at removing barriers that keep people apart and promoting the mutual understanding that brings them together. Last May, I had a meeting in the Assembly with the Welsh Refugee Council, the North Wales Association for Multicultural Integration and the personal support service CAIS to talk about how we can work in partnership to break down barriers and increase understanding of each other's cultures.

Last October, both I and Julie James spoke at NWAMI's annual Celebration of Integration Day event at the Temple of Peace in Cardiff. I closed the event by again emphasising the importance of integration by celebrating our glorious diversity together, building community cohesion and a tolerant society through cultural engagement. So, I hope you will outline further how your plan will engage and embrace those projects already operating across the nation of Wales, doing this heavy lifting to build bridges from both ends.

Finally, if I may, just a question on how we can support within this agenda the local city and town initiatives that are also taking off. You'll recall well how Wales became a fair-trade nation because of the jigsaw pieces starting separately and coming together, with Wrexham as the first fair-trade town and others coming together before Wales could become a whole fair-trade nation. Now, in this case, last summer for example, Synergy in Flintshire, working together to make Flintshire a place of sanctuary for refugees and those fleeing violence and persecution, united not only Synergy members, but the Wales Cities of Sanctuary, Ethnic Minorities and Youth Support Team Wales, church, charity and action group representatives, Theatr Clwyd and Aura libraries and leisure—again, work on the ground that can further benefit from working with your plan.

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