Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:22 pm on 30 January 2019.
Llywydd, I think we heard from the horse's mouth ourselves: there is no better deal than what we've got at the moment, and WTO is not going to improve. In fact, in steel, there's a WTO agreement. We can actually import steel from Turkey without tariffs. We have to pay 40 per cent on steel going to Turkey. That is going to damage our industry. And we face other rules and other consequences because we lose the protection of the EU if we go out without a deal and we will face US 232 sanctions as well as everything else. The protection the EU has will go. So, the steel industry suffers badly on WTO rules as we leave, and that's the impact we have on our communities. An industry that is a key industry in my constituency will be damaged because of that issue. And going on WTO rules, as their amendment says, will be damaging to my constituents and the constituents of the region around me. So, we cannot do that. And my constituency did vote for it, and I will not deny that, but I'm not actually saying anything else, but I'm telling you there are implications. And let's remember one thing: the two and a half years we've had since then, you know my role has been looking at the implications of Brexit, and we've been taking evidence of this, and now they're identifying some of the issues that will happen when we leave on 29 March without a deal. I'll take an intervention.