Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:13 pm on 6 February 2019.
I don't rule out supporting it; we'll consider the debate and take a decision. But it is more difficult to create those benefits of agglomeration in rural areas because that agglomeration needs lots of people working together in a confined space. To a degree, we have that in Cardiff, and many of my constituents in south-east Wales commute into Cardiff to often reasonably well-paying jobs, and that's something I welcome. But I think it's something Welsh Government needs to support, and this continued foot-dragging and failing to make a decision over the M4 relief road is one major disincentive and inhibitor to growth in the Cardiff city region and beyond.
Similarly, I support the south Wales metro; I think that's an excellent idea. I'm looking forward to Transport for Wales and Welsh Government pushing on with that as quickly as possible. Yet, we also in south-east Wales see people who commute into Bristol and, from that perspective, the abolition of the tolls on the Severn bridges is absolutely fantastic. And we are seeing in Newport really significant growth; more than one in six of every new home in Wales is now being built in Newport. Now, many of those homes are being occupied by people who are commuting—again, to relatively well-paid jobs, often—in the Bristol region. Mike spoke about London and the south-east as more than average but, actually, Bristol, while not a region, is also significantly above the UK-wide GVA, and is again good for the IT jobs. And I think it's really important across south Wales—from Swansea to Cardiff to Newport to Bristol—that we link that together as a region far better than we do now, and that is one really important way to drive prosperity, at least for that area of Wales.
Can I just turn briefly to the issue of city deals? I thought it was a fantastic event we had last week with the mid Wales growth event and I was delighted that Russell encouraged me to come to that, and congratulations to him and others involved in showcasing all those really impressive businesses from across mid and west Wales. But we're told that there are only three businesses in that region that have more than 200 employees. Ceredigion and Powys together have a far smaller population than any other region we're looking at for city deals, and I just say to Welsh Government that they need to take that into account in terms of how they work with them. We can't have a single template for how these deals work and I think those two councils need significantly more support from Welsh Government in knitting that deal together and making it work for their local area.