I think the idea of a national forest is all well and good and to be welcomed, but you have to ask the First Minister: you've been part of the furniture in this institution in different shapes or forms—part of the furniture whether it's made out of Welsh wood or not—and where have you been in terms of these targets? You weren't able to answer, and there's a very good reason, maybe, because you used to publish an annual report on the 'Woodlands for Wales' indicators; you stopped, and I think I know why, because, in the last four years, you've achieved an average of just 200 hectares a year of new woodland planting—just 10 per cent of the target. Can you think of another area of public policy, First Minister, where you've underperformed as badly as this? It's the worst four-year figure since modern records began in 1971. NRW hasn't produced any new woodland at all since it was created six years ago. Scotland has produced 10 times as much new woodland in that period. Restocking rates in Wales are the lowest they have been since 1990.

Now, to some this may seem like a particular problem in a relatively small sector. It's nevertheless an important one to the rural economy, significant in the national scale in terms of our climate change reduction strategy, but, First Minister, doesn't this deep failure at the heart of Wales's biggest public body tell a much larger truth that sums up 20 years of Labour Government—glossy strategies, ambitious goals, but no delivery and no accountability?