Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:40 pm on 12 March 2019.
Can I thank the Minister for her statement? I do welcome much of what she has said today. Can I thank in particular the Minister for the Welsh Government's investment in Mochdre, in Llanfair Talhaiarn and in Abergele, all of which have been outlined in the statement? Can I welcome as well the investment that has taken place in places like Colwyn Bay and in Kinmel Bay in the past, in my constituency, too? And indeed in Ruthin. As you can tell from the long list of names, my constituency's particularly prone to flooding, particularly along the coastal belt, and one of the things that has been alarming in recent years is that we've got recurrent problems along some parts of that coast. So, Sandy Cove, for example, is particularly prone to overtopping when onshore winds combine with high tides. That's a situation that isn't going away. There's been some resilience that's been put in place, with some secondary defences, but it needs some significant investment if we're ever to resolve that problem once and for all.
Now, I hear what the Minister has to say in terms of the formula, if you like, that is used to assess and determine the priority in terms of spend, and quite rightly that is focused very much on the number of homes and businesses that will be protected. But of course many parts of the coast there that are prone to flooding are caravan areas—they're holiday homes—but they don't meet the same criteria as a permanent residential home. I do think that some of these nuances need to be considered perhaps a little bit more appropriately when the funding is distributed in order that those can also be afforded some protection, particularly as we have 12-month licences for many of the holiday homes along that part of the coast. There are areas of Abergele and Pensarn where there's erosion taking place along the sea defences, and I'm very concerned about their vulnerability going forward.
Obviously I've listened very carefully to what you've said, quite rightly, about the need for other partners to come to the table in order to address the concerns around the Old Colwyn area. That again is a place where it's transport infrastructure and sewerage infrastructure in particular that are vulnerable, but not many homes. Yet the reality is that, because of this current impasse, the likelihood of anything being delivered there anytime soon is pretty dim, and pretty low. I do think, Minister, that it is going to take the sort of leadership that you've been able to provide elsewhere in Wales in order to knock heads together and get the right people and decision makers around the table in order to make things happen. I wonder whether the Welsh Government could call a summit of decision makers, of Welsh Water, Network Rail, Conwy County Borough Council and anybody else with an interest in that particular part of the coast in order that we can try to get a timetable together and get the investment on the table that needs to take place in order for that work to be done. Because I can't stress this enough: I've seen parts of the railway embankment washed away in storms in recent years. They've been repaired, yes, but they're patch repairs and unfortunately, at some point, there will be a catastrophic failure.
I lived in Tywyn at the time of the Tywyn floods, and there we had a sea defence that was designed, really, to protect the railway, which, once it gave way, caused thousands of people to have to be evacuated and thousands of homes to be flooded. It was because of the negligence, really, of what was British Rail at the time, which was responsible primarily for that asset. I don't want to see that sort of catastrophic failure of an important flood defence asset take place again, and I do think it's going to require, I'm afraid, some leadership, some sort of summit arranged by the Welsh Government, in order to move things forward. And I wonder whether you would consider that as something that you could perhaps do in order to inch that project through to completion.