Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I am struggling, I have to say, with what the Conservatives are calling for because they wish the new chief executive all the best as well as the interim chair but then they're also saying that they're all hopeless and that we need to restart and recreate a new organisation.

Now, for me, starting from the beginning is the last thing that we need to do. We would be wasting the work that's been done over the past few years, and the reason that we've proposed one of our amendments, the second amendment, is that I don't accept the claim in the motion that there is a systematic failure:

'Regrets that NRW has systematically failed'.

Yes, there have been failings, and we regret some of those failings, but you can't try and characterise the situation as if the whole organisation is flawed from top to bottom, and I do think that it's unfortunate that you're besmirching the whole organisation because of the failings of some people within it. Now, as I say, the last thing I would want to see is full reorganisation because that would not—