7. Welsh Conservatives debate: Natural Resources Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:54 pm on 13 March 2019.

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Photo of Lesley Griffiths Lesley Griffiths Labour 5:54, 13 March 2019

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, and thank you for the opportunity to respond to this debate today. We last discussed Natural Resources Wales at a debate here on 13 February, following the Public Accounts Committee's report of NRW's annual report and accounts. During the debate, I think we all recognised, barring a few, the extraordinary work carried out by the staff of Natural Resources Wales, as well as the decisive, positive direction that has been set by the new leadership.

I absolutely recognise the concerns raised by staff, and I know the priority of the chief executive and her senior team is to ensure all staff feel confident they will be listened to when giving their views on the way forward. This is just one area in which the measures necessary to strengthen the organisation's internal structures and ways of working are already being progressed. 

As a Welsh Government, we believe the period of uncertainty proposed by the opposition is absolutely the last thing the staff of NRW need. Opposition parties call for an independent inquiry, for more discussions to take place. What we want is that change to happen now. The National Assembly for Wales have both remit and the ability to provide robust, independent scrutiny of NRW's continued progress. I welcome and commend the reports produced by the Assembly committees. Their recommendations have been accepted and are being implemented. The focus of Welsh Government and the new leadership of NRW is to grasp the present challenges and see through the changes needed. NRW has the ability to bring in independent scrutiny of its work and, indeed, this is something they've already done. The report by the auditors, Grant Thornton, has left no stone unturned in its review of NRW's forestry operations. NRW submitted the findings of the review to the Chair of the Public Accounts Committee in advance of their evidence session last month, and the report was published online, along with details of the action being taken in response. And I think this is really indicative of the transparent way in which we will see this process through.

I think it's really disappointing the opposition—the Tories and UKIP—continue to suggest that the solution to the challenges faced by NRW is to undo the work of the new leadership, break up the organisation and have another reorganisation. We are firmly against the idea, as has been suggested by the Tories, that the best way to run those services is to fragment them. NRW is a single body responsible—