You seem to be playing with words unnecessarily, Minister, with respect. The only reason you hit your previous target was because of the take-up of e-cigarettes by many tens of thousands of people across Wales who use them to quit smoking. But, of course, they took them up off their own bat because they were not available—as is not the case in England where they are available—through smoking cessation services here. So, can I ask you again: will you consider allowing NHS Wales's smoking cessation services to use e-cigarettes and to promote the use of e-cigarettes to patients and individuals across Wales who are wanting to reduce the harm that they incur as a result of smoking? You say that these are much less harmful, I say that they are much safer. I think both of those things are not incompatible to actually say.

Now, can I ask about smoking rates particularly amongst pregnant women here in Wales? At the moment, around 20 per cent of pregnant women in Wales are smoking, and we know that that of course can lead to significant problems and complications in pregnancy and birth, including the stunting of the growth of children later in life and increasing their chances of developing diseases like asthma. Now, we know that the percentage of pregnant women smoking is higher in Wales than in other parts of the UK, including England and Scotland, so can I ask you specifically what work you are doing as the Welsh Government to focus attention on smoking amongst pregnant mothers in order that we can reduce these levels and lead the way in the UK, not sit at the bottom of the league table?