Part of 2. Questions to the Minister for Health and Social Services – in the Senedd at 3:04 pm on 13 March 2019.
I don't think that's a fair characterisation at all. When you look at what we're doing with NHS spending, I'm proud of the fact that we're putting more resources into the national health service, despite being 10 years deep into Tory austerity, and the choices we make are incredibly difficult and they have a real-world consequence in every single public service. And there is no easy choice to make. If we put more money into different public services, then we will obviously face challenges about whether we're adequately funding the health service to deliver the sort of care that each and every one of us expects for ourselves. So, we made an upfront choice within the last term to put money into the national health service and accepted that would reduce money for other public services. You can't pretend that you can add more money into everything, as some people in this Chamber, despite campaigning for austerity in three successive general elections, regularly do in these sets of questions.
In terms of how we're getting different organisations to work together, the transformation fund is focused on moving more activity and resources around it into our primary care system, and more than that, in the partnership between primary care and other public services. That requires the health service to be a better partner in that conversation and in, then, the delivery of those services together.
So, actually, when you look not just at the activity we're undertaking now, but if you look at the transformation fund itself, you'll see that each and every one of those has been supported by each regional partnership board. And that now includes not just health, social care and the third sector, but, from the start of April, every regional partnership will also include voices from housing and education to make sure we have a joined-up conversation with each of the regions of Wales about how to transform services, and how actually the resources should follow the event when there's an agreement about what we should do to change it, to make sure there is real, system-wide change and not small, individual projects that each one of us may talk about on a local level but won't transform our system. That is absolutely my objective.