Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:31 pm on 20 March 2019.
Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd. Thank you very much. And can I thank most of the Members who've contributed to this debate? I can't possibly respond to all the points that have been made, but we've heard some very moving individual testimonies, people speaking either for their friends, colleagues or for themselves.
I think the points made particularly by David Rees and Leanne were about women's different life experiences, about how much more they depend on the state pension. It was literally not possible for my constituent, Rose, to save in an employer's pension scheme, because she wasn't allowed because of her sex. Those women's lives have been very different and we owe them something for the unpaid work that they've done, for the caring that they've done, for the volunteering in their communities.
I'm extremely grateful to the Welsh Government for their support for this motion and I really hope that they will look at ways in which they can practically make representations on behalf of the women so affected. And now, Llywydd, we come to the cognitive dissonance that is Mark Isherwood. I mean, we all know what a very nice human being he is, but how on earth can he hold the values that I believe he genuinely does hold and then talk such nonsense? Mark Isherwood has explained to us—[Interruption.]—I'm sorry, Mark, no, I don't have time. I normally would, but I don't have time—