Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:45 pm on 20 March 2019.
Thank you for your little lesson, but the fact is what you just heard me saying; you're setting up a very different precedent. You're asking for the people. There's not one Öcalan here. You're not talking about one Abdullah Öcalan. There are a lot of other similar sorts of situations around the globe. Don't underestimate—. You are actually opening Pandora's—. You are opening Pandora's box—[Interruption.] No, no, no. Those countries must look after their own selves. And they're living very happily. Don't ever think the Turks and Kurdish are fighting every day. The great people are living together, and their Imam—. As he said, the Kurdish are a great nation. Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians—they are also the same. And they're living for centuries. They're not—. You just mentioned occupation; it's nonsense. There's no occupation. They were divided into groups, yes. If you go back 500 years—. Look, Jeremy Adams, on the Irish isle—20 years ago, he was a different person. Gerry Adams, sorry. He was a different person 30 years ago. Now, he's a totally different person. [Interruption.] Time and—. Wait a minute. Time and negotiation do happen, and they do change the nation. It will happen. It will happen with Turkey. [Interruption.] As long as Turkey and they sit—. It is their job. It's not our job. They will sit and sort their problem out, to make sure—. Do not open Pandora's box here. [Interruption.] Thank you, no—