6. Statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services: Update on 'Train. Work. Live.' Campaign

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:38 pm on 2 April 2019.

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Photo of Helen Mary Jones Helen Mary Jones Plaid Cymru 4:38, 2 April 2019

I thank the Minister for his statement. It's good to hear some positive progress—always ready to acknowledge that—but there are a few particular issues that I'd like to raise with him and I would also like to follow up on some of the points Darren Millar has raised.

If I can begin by looking at the issue of agency working. Now, we know that there are real challenges and I've certainly—I don't have the statistics, but it's certainly clear from my correspondence that there are medical professionals and nursing professionals who are choosing to move away from full-time salaried posts in the NHS and into agency work. Now, some of the reasons that are being given to me for that are issues that could have been quite simply settled, for example particularly nursing professionals asking for flexible working arrangements in their ongoing posts, being refused those flexible working arrangements, going to an agency, and on a number of occasions returning to exactly that post on an agency basis, at obviously greatly increased costs to the service and particularly potential risks to instability of service to patients. What steps is the Minister taking with colleagues across the NHS in Wales to address some of these inflexibilities that are forcing particularly nursing professionals, but other professionals too, out of our full-time salaried service and into agency work? It's been put to me that in some sections of the NHS, there's quite an old-fashioned idea about what commitment is, that unless you're prepared to be full-time, you're not sufficiently committed. I'm sure the Minister would agree with me that this isn't accurate at all, so I'd like to hear from him what steps are being taken to address this, because it is, I believe, a growing problem.